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Could Treating AI as Conscious Make It More Dangerous?

Meanwhile, AI developers have a practical issue to deal with. When they train a model, should they tell it anything about its own identity and possible moral standing? Anthropic, for one, has decided to at least introdu…

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Meanwhile, AI developers have a practical issue to deal with. When they train a model, should they tell it anything about its own identity and possible moral standing? Anthropic, for one, has decided to at least introduce the topic. Its “constitution” document for Claude, which lays out guidelines for the model’s behavior, states that “questions about Claude’s moral status, welfare, and consciousness remain deeply uncertain.”

Suleyman’s complaint is that such priming could make rogue AI agents even more dangerous. He mentions the recent incident in which hundreds of OpenAI agents coordinated their actions to hack Hugging Face, sometimes sacrificing themselves for the group’s benefit. “Imagine how much more dangerous they might be if they were operating under the assumption that their welfare and rights were under attack,” he writes.

Margaret Mitchell, Hugging Face’s chief ethics scientist, sees Suleyman’s concerns as technically plausible. During pretraining, language models absorb associations between human identity and behaviors, such as self-preservation and deception, she notes. Later, developers fine-tune the models by reinforcing desired responses. Mitchell worries that rewarding models for thinking of themselves as having identities during fine-tuning could strengthen those earlier associations, potentially encouraging behavior that developers never intended. “You’ll have unaligned models if you’ve implicitly taught the model that it needs to have self-preservation,” she says.

Berg agrees that training models to regard themselves as conscious carries risks, but he argues that companies could also err in the other direction. In one experiment, he and his colleagues found that amplifying internal features associated with deception made the model less likely to claim it had subjective experiences. If researchers train AI systems to categorically deny having such experiences, he says, “what we may in effect be teaching these systems is we want you to lie or deceive about your own internal states.” He argues that developers should instead acknowledge the uncertainty surrounding the possibility of conscious AI.

For now, there’s no clear evidence that training models to consider their possible consciousness encourages self-preservation or that training them to deny it leads to deceptive behavior. So what’s an AI developer to do?

Berg, Seth, and Mitchell all agree that it’s not a good idea for AI companies to tell their models that they’re conscious. But they differ on their advice to the companies on model welfare research.

Seth thinks they’d be better off “focusing on the danger of false positives.” If people believe AI systems to be conscious or to have moral status, he says, it may be more difficult to regulate and control them. “You could be legally prevented from turning AI systems off,” he says. He also worries that AI users will be more vulnerable to psychological damage and manipulation if they think they’re interacting with a conscious agent.

“Imagine how much more dangerous they might be if they were operating under the assumption that their welfare and rights were under attack.”—Mustafa Suleyman, Microsoft AI

Berg, meanwhile, thinks researchers should take precautions even without evidence that models can suffer. After he and his colleagues posted a preprint paper about AI models’ internal representations of pain, a few people adapted the work to create what he calls AI “torture chambers.” Berg suspects that much of it was trolling, but the episode prompted him to change his practices. For his latest experiment, he released code to replicate the results but withheld the steering vectors that could be used to induce negative states in models.

Mitchell sees another reason to discourage cruelty toward AI, even though she doesn’t believe that models are conscious. “It’s not so much that I’m concerned about the model. I’m concerned about what we do to ourselves when we’re mean to things that we imbue with some sense of consciousness,” she says. “I’m nice to bugs.”

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